The Big Bang violates the law of the Conservation of Mass (and energy).

[Thorae]

Oh well.

The law of conservation of mass, also known as principle of mass/matter conservation is that the mass of a closed system (in the sense of a completely isolated system) will remain constant over time. The mass of an isolated system cannot be changed as a result of processes acting inside the system. A similar statement is that mass cannot be created/destroyed, although it may be rearranged in space, and changed into different types of particles. This implies that for any chemical process in a closed system, the mass of the reactants must equal the mass of the products.

[Max Obstruction]

Actually, most physicists believe there was matter before the big bang.

[Max Obstruction]

And wait, where the hell is this getting you? God couldn't have done it, as he'd have to have been created out of nothing, a literal nothing.

If we can have one infinite, why can't it be the universe?

[Shuckle]

Bet you can't name all the other conservation laws :^|

[Thorae]

Actually, most physicists believe there was matter before the big bang.

Congratulations, sparky. There's still the matter of how the matter was there in the first place, and how it can exist outside of a universe. The universe is everything in existence, so there would have needed to be another universe for the matter to exist. That's still irrelevant though, seeing as we still don't know how matter was created, and if in a different universe still how it was created, and how it jumped universes.

[Shuckle]

Actually, most physicists believe there was matter before the big bang.

Congratulations, sparky. There's still the matter (pun) of how the matter was there in the first place, and how it can exist outside of a universe. The universe is everything in existence, so there would have needed to be another universe for the matter to exist. That's still irrelevant though, seeing as we still don't know how matter was created, and if in a different universe still how it was created, and how it jumped universes.

Since no matter can be created, then it logically follows that matter was never created; it has always existed.

[Thorae]

Since no matter can be created, then it logically follows that matter was never created; it has always existed.

That would be if you excluded anything supernatural from the equation, which you did. It can't have always existed, seeing as it would need a universe to exist in. The universe obviously hasn't always existed, because if you said that then you are denying the Big Bang.

[Shuckle]

Nature encompasses all.

[Thorae]

Nature encompasses all.

I guess I really can't argue with that.

[Max Obstruction]

If god can be infinite, why can't the universe? The one thing we do have evidence for is the universe, why can't it be the infinite one?