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Why is the government better than the corporations?
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Why is the government better than the corporations?
Certain communists call corporations terrible, terrible things. I wonder why they prefer the government? If the corporations control the politicians by giving them money for campaigns in exchange for votes then who is worse, the one bribing or the one accepting the bribe?
We have seen how politicians can be just as bad as the people who own the companies. (Ted Kennedy drunk driving)
What would be the difference between having the government finance everything or have the corporations finance everything.
Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money.
The politicians want money to get more power.
Nothing changes in criminalizing private business and making everything financed by the government.
In communism that is what you would do. You would criminalize private business.
We have seen how politicians can be just as bad as the people who own the companies. (Ted Kennedy drunk driving)
What would be the difference between having the government finance everything or have the corporations finance everything.
Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money.
The politicians want money to get more power.
Nothing changes in criminalizing private business and making everything financed by the government.
In communism that is what you would do. You would criminalize private business.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
I think I've answered this before...
The government allocates resources and creates jobs. They don't worry about profits so they don't leave the country in search for a poor country to exploit.
"Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money."
Politicians taking money from corporations is corruption. This comes from capitalism. If you make it illegal for politicians to be as corrupt as they are, you would eliminate the problem.
Or you could have a direct democracy where the citizens vote on the problems.
The government allocates resources and creates jobs. They don't worry about profits so they don't leave the country in search for a poor country to exploit.
"Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money."
Politicians taking money from corporations is corruption. This comes from capitalism. If you make it illegal for politicians to be as corrupt as they are, you would eliminate the problem.
Or you could have a direct democracy where the citizens vote on the problems.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
CapitalistOverlord wrote:I think I've answered this before...
The government allocates resources and creates jobs. They don't worry about profits so they don't leave the country in search for a poor country to exploit.
"Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money."
Politicians taking money from corporations is corruption. This comes from capitalism. If you make it illegal for politicians to be as corrupt as they are, you would eliminate the problem.
Or you could have a direct democracy where the citizens vote on the problems.
I understand that the government allocates resources. That is why I said finance.
I also stated that taking the money is corruption. I also agree that it should be illegal or term limits should be executed for Congressmen so that this decreases.
I can't figure out how all this comes from capitalism. I am beginning to think that you just blame everything on capitalism. I said that the one who takes the money is no better than the one who gives it.
In your system the politicians would need money to campaign. Where would they get this money from?

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
patsfan07 wrote:CapitalistOverlord wrote:I think I've answered this before...
The government allocates resources and creates jobs. They don't worry about profits so they don't leave the country in search for a poor country to exploit.
"Both politicians and CEOs are both profit driven which is apparently terrible. The CEOs want profit to get more money."
Politicians taking money from corporations is corruption. This comes from capitalism. If you make it illegal for politicians to be as corrupt as they are, you would eliminate the problem.
Or you could have a direct democracy where the citizens vote on the problems.
I understand that the government allocates resources. That is why I said finance.
I also stated that taking the money is corruption. I also agree that it should be illegal or term limits should be executed for Congressmen so that this decreases.
I can't figure out how all this comes from capitalism. I am beginning to think that you just blame everything on capitalism. I said that the one who takes the money is no better than the one who gives it.
In your system the politicians would need money to campaign. Where would they get this money from?
Not corporations, but they seemed to be able to do it pretty easy in Soviet Russia. Well, during the 1920s when it was still communist. It's actually pretty easy to run using the internet though.
I use hyperbole in my claims when I feel like trolling, like now... Maybe it's just Mexico. Everything seems depressing here.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
Lenin was a dictator. He did not need to campaign.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
I was talking about the politburo, not Lenin.
Anyways, I've got to go, I've run out of time in this Internet Cafe
Anyways, I've got to go, I've run out of time in this Internet Cafe

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
Lenin ultimately has the final say on that, but lets get back on topic to my main point.
How exactly does this corruption come from capitalism and how will it be prevented by your system?
How exactly does this corruption come from capitalism and how will it be prevented by your system?

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
It comes from corporations, who come from capitalism.
The only thing I can think of that can stop corruption are laws and term limits.
The only thing I can think of that can stop corruption are laws and term limits.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
CapitalistOverlord wrote:It comes from corporations, who come from capitalism.
The only thing I can think of that can stop corruption are laws and term limits.
Laws and term limits can both be instated in a capitalist system.
I think we made progress today. We both agree on somethings about removing corruption.
We also agree on marijuana and guns.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
patsfan07 wrote:CapitalistOverlord wrote:It comes from corporations, who come from capitalism.
The only thing I can think of that can stop corruption are laws and term limits.
Laws and term limits can both be instated in a capitalist system.
I think we made progress today. We both agree on somethings about removing corruption.
We also agree on marijuana and guns.
We both agree on the government staying out of the private lives of the citizen, so that's good.

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
CapitalistOverlord wrote:We both agree on the government staying out of the private lives of the citizen, so that's good.
Reminds me of the Stasi and their profiling of many people in East Germany...

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Re: Why is the government better than the corporations?
If the government had more power, I doubt they'd have any reason to build hundreds of sweatshops overseas. Also, by this day and age, the government and corporations are one entity, so this topic is totally irrelevant anyways.

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